Daniel Pesca ([info]messiaenisms) wrote,
@ 2007-04-16 16:50:00
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Carter Repents

William Bolcom forwarded this to the composition department.  I think it's pretty funny.

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:53 pm From the Associated Press NEW YORK --
American composer Elliott Carter, an exemplar of the atonalist style of modernism and according to admirers the greatest living practitioner of his craft, apologized to music lovers around the world today for what he called "a half century of wasted time." "What was I thinking?" the venerable Mr. Carter, 99, said at his home in Manhattan. "Nobody likes this stuff. Why have I wasted my life?" Carter said he "went wrong" back in the 1940s and spent the next 60 years pursuing the musical dead-end of atonality. In the past seven decades, he has produced five string quartets, a half dozen song cycles, works for orchestra, solo concertos and innumerable chamber works for various combinations of instruments--all in an advanced, complex style he now dismisses as "noise." Despite consistent encouragement of many mainstream musicians such as Boston Symphony Music Director James Levine, for Chicago Symphony conductor Daniel Barenboim, and the cellist Yo-Yo Ma, Carter said his many admirers were "delusional." "The critics who said they were just congratulating themselves for being smarter than everybody else were right all along," he said. "We should all go back and get our heads on straight." Carter said he blamed his late wife, Helen, for turning him into an unrepentant modernist. "She liked this stuff, and I could never say no to her," he said. Mrs. Carter died in 2003 at age 95. Since then, Carter said, he has been reevaluating his aesthetic.  "I'd like to write something pretty for a change--maybe something based on an Irish folk tune," he said. He was uncertain whether he would withdraw his substantial catalogue from the repertoire, though one alternative would be to revise his works, ending each with a tonic triad, he said. "I feel like an enormous weight has been lifted from my shoulders," Carter said. "From now on, I promise to be good."

What Next?, indeed. . .




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[info]makeupable
2007-04-16 10:42 pm UTC (link)
this is a joke, EH!?!?

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[info]italichic
2007-04-17 02:13 pm UTC (link)
lol, I wish that weren't written on April Fools.

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-22 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Oh, gosh, I'm in trouble. I wrote this thing and posted it on Good-music-guide on April Fool's Day. I'm foreseeing a Seinfeld moment, Mr. Carter sees this and the worst happens., and I spend the rest of my life saying things like, "For heaven's sake, it was only a joke."

How was I supposed to know she had a pony?

BTW, I'm a great fan of Mr. Carter's music, and I meant the article as an April Fool's joke to tweak some folks on a music discussion board who believe precisely the kind of nonsense I put into his mouth. A couple fell for it momentarily.

Oh well, Godspeed. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle now.

Best,

Joe B.

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Please get out of the bathtub, President Fillmore
[info]wordweaverlynn
2007-04-23 06:03 pm UTC (link)
You and H. L. Mencken.

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elliot carter
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 12:04 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I'm very disappointed it IS a joke, because it would have been some of the first honest words out of Carter's mouth in, oh, say, half a century. Truly, his "music" stinks like ugly rotten garbage and is a contributor to the decline of the classical music industry. His snake oil isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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Re: elliott carter
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Rubbish. Mr. Carter is a great composer, and great man. I've been listening to a tape of his music on the way to work the past few mornings, and it really kicks a--. Charles Rosen has written eloquently of the phenomenon represented by your post: you find no pleasure in the music (a legitimate response), and therefore you can't imagine anyone else enjoying it, either (an illegitimate response). So, we must in some way be lying. Well, we are not.

And Mr. Carter's music has nothing to do with any suppose decline in anything, let alone an industry. There are plenty of people writing tonal, so-called audience-friendly music these days, and conserative audiences aren't listening to that, either.

So go back to the music you enjoy, and give the rest of us our space.

One more thing: if you're going to dis a guy, you might at least bother to spell his name right.

Have a great day.

JB

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Re: elliott carter
(Anonymous)
2007-08-08 06:22 am UTC (link)
THE FIRST QUARTET BELONGS IN THE PANTHEON, ALONG WITH THE LATE BEETHOVEN QUARTETS, CHOPIN'S MAZURKAS, SCHUBERT'S IMPROMPTU'S, THE RITE OF SPRING, AND ANYTHING WRITTEN BY THE FUGS

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[info]kymodymu
2008-07-11 02:08 am UTC (link)
I have been listening to his music since when i was just 15. I am now 38 and his music still touchs my soul.

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[info]eszterezuky
2008-07-16 10:46 pm UTC (link)
This is just music, great fun to do, whereas Peter, since he left really, has been doing his 'thing,' albeit lots of different things under that umbrella, and I think he's just a little over-cautious sometimes about going back to doing something (that) basically, fundamentally, is just fun.

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[info]messiaenisms
2007-04-25 03:12 pm UTC (link)
For the record, I'm also a fan of much of Carter's work. The three early sonatas (piano, cello and piano, and that one with harpsichord) are all thoroughly enjoyable, and the first string quartet feels so fresh and passionate and unique, even now. I came to love the second string quartet, too, after I got deep inside the piece for a brief presentation in Bob's class back at Eastman.
That said, I find it hard to love some of the later stuff I've heard. I performed the harpsichord part in the double concerto, during that same year at Eastman. There are passages that are truly wonderful--the terse and witty harpsichord cadenza, the atmospheric slow movement with the fluctuating lines over top, the great crash that begins the coda--but I still can't grasp the thing as a whole. I feel similarly about the third quartet and the concerto for orchestra, and I think my problem has more to do with density than anything else. I certainly enjoy a few later pieces, like the Night Fantasies and the pieces for solo instrument.
I posted the little article because I thought it was a very clever and well-written joke. Were Carter to actually say things like that about his own work, I wouldn't laugh--it would be a sign of senility!
Thanks for posting, Joe.

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Carter-talk
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Daniel, your approch to Carter seems to mirror my own. For the longest time, I concentrated on the earlier sonatas and the Variations for Orchestra, and I couldn't get into the later stiuff. That all changed the night in NYC when I saw Boulez conduct A Symphony of Three Orchestras, which I feel in love with immediately. Today the Concerto for Orchestra and the Third Quartet are among my favorite pieces of all time. The Piano Concerto is also amazing, esp. in the Oppens-Gielen-Cincinnati recording.

If you're drawn to the later pieces, I'd recommend Vol. 7 of the Music of Elliott Carter on Bridge. Beautiful stuff, and all written since 2000.

As I've said elsehwere, the Double Concerto does seem to lack the concentration and the momentum of the PC, but it's got some very lovely moments, as you have already pointed out. I'm very fond of the place in the adagio where the winds seem to open up like a stop-action film of a blossoming flower.

I envy you you ability to play the Double Concerto. You must be a very fine musician. I started playing piano too late to become very good, though I have promised myself I will learn to play the Diversion No. 1 for piano before I die.

Joe B.

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Hello from Janek Makowski
(Anonymous)
2007-07-31 11:28 am UTC (link)
I'd like to say hello to all people on this board.

Regards,
Janek

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Nice quote
(Anonymous)
2008-05-14 06:28 am UTC (link)

A budget is just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well
as afterward.


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